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Poker

Hyper-Turbo SNG

How many tournaments are needed for your bankroll to reflect your actual ROI.

~1 s bankroll chart without reboot without bets
Result Waiting for launch
— ROI over the long term
— bankroll, buy-ins
— bankroll, USD
— profit, USD
— first places
— third places
— losses
— tournaments

Theoretical ROI based on the given probabilities will appear after the calculation.

Tournament bankroll no data
Each point is one tournament, the values are in buy-ins. Sharp drops are variance, not a mistake.

ROI and variance in tournaments

ROI (return on investment) shows what percentage of the buy-in amount was returned in prizes: ROI = (prizes − buy-ins) / buy-ins × 100 %. A positive ROI means that over the long term the player takes back more than he puts in; negative — that tournaments are unprofitable for him.

The main trap is the short distance. In hyper-turbo, almost the entire prize pool is concentrated in the top places, so a dozen tournaments can give an ROI of hundreds of percent or minus one hundred percent without any change in the quality of play. Only a few thousand tournaments provide an estimate that you can rely on.

The simulator builds a bankroll through tournaments: each tournament is an independent random event with given probabilities for first and third place. The graph line shows how the same ROI can look completely different on the way to the expected value.

Where does the scatter come from

The variance of the result of a single tournament depends on the size of the prizes and their probabilities. The larger the prize for first place relative to the buy-in, the more a single win "skews" the graph. Therefore, in hyper-turbo, the bankroll looks like steps: long declines and rare sharp rises.

What can be checked

  • how ROI changes with a change in the probability of first place;
  • how many tournaments are needed for the schedule to look like a straight line;
  • what happens to the bankroll if the prize for third place is close to the buy-in;
  • why the same parameters give different trajectories with each run.
Frequently Asked Questions
What is ROI in simple terms?
This is the return percentage: how many prizes came for each buy-in invested. ROI +10% means that for every 100 units of contributions, 110 prizes were received.
Why does ROI jump from run to run?
Every tournament is an independent random event. In the short term, a few wins or their absence heavily change the percentage; in the long term, ROI converges to its expected value.
What do the probabilities of 1st and 3rd place mean?
This is a chance to take the corresponding place in a single tournament, in percentages. The sum of the probabilities of all prize places cannot exceed 100%, and the remaining portion represents losses without a prize.
How many tournaments are needed for a fair assessment?
The higher the variance, the larger the sample. For hyper-turbo, they usually talk about thousands of tournaments: with a hundred, the bankroll spread is still comparable to the result itself.
Is this real money?
No. Buy-ins and prizes are conventional units of the model. The site does not hold games, does not accept bets, and does not pay out winnings.
See also

One bankroll is just one trajectory. How different the results can be for identical players is shown by the following simulator.

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